The trial of Joan of Arc
St. Joan of Arc is on trial, and her judges ask her a question meant as a trap: does she know that she’s in God’s grace?3
She answers: “If I am not, may it please God to put me in it; if I am, may it please God to keep me there.”3
A yes would have sounded like presumption. A no would have sounded like despair. She answered with trust.
01Your verses first
“That you may know”
“These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.”
“For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing will be able to separate us from God’s love which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
Read fairly: God wants His people to know they have eternal life, not to live in fear. If salvation rests on Christ and not on us, why can a Catholic not simply say they know they are saved?
Catholics read those verses as real confidence. Here’s how.
02The Catholic reading
A sure hope
Hope rests on God, who is faithful to His promises; despair is a sin precisely because it goes against His goodness, His justice and His mercy.2
Each of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere to the end and to obtain the joy of heaven.5
Reflecting on God’s blessings in our own lives and in the lives of the saints, the Catechism says, “offers us a guarantee that grace is at work in us.”3
“I give eternal life to them. They will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.”
So why not put it the way many evangelicals do? Because Paul also wrote this.
03Your Bible too
Work out your salvation
“So then, my beloved, even as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”
“Therefore let him who thinks he stands be careful that he doesn’t fall.”
Paul could say a crown of justice was laid up for him, and also discipline himself “lest by any means, after I have preached to others, I myself should be disqualified.”1011
So the Church teaches that grace escapes our experience: “We cannot therefore rely on our feelings or our works to conclude that we are justified and saved.”3
It warns against two opposite errors: despair, which gives up hope of salvation, and presumption, which hopes for forgiveness without conversion and glory without merit.24
Which brings the disagreement into focus.
04The real disagreement
Where we think it lies
Not whether we can trust God; Catholics believe He is utterly faithful. The question is whether a believer can know now, with certainty, that they will persevere to the end, or whether perseverance is itself something we hope and pray for.
The Church’s children, the Catechism says, “rightly hope for the grace of final perseverance.”12
Joan of Arc’s answer is the Catholic shape of assurance: complete trust in God, without presuming on ourselves.
If I’m not, put me in it. If I’m, keep me there. It’s a prayer anyone can pray.
Careful with the facts
Christian to Christian
Catholics and Protestants agree that salvation is God’s gift in Christ, which no one can earn at the start. This question is about how that gift is held, not whether it’s given.
Only one thing to do
Your one next step
Read Romans 8:28-39 aloud. Then pray Joan of Arc’s answer as your own.
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Notes
How we know · 12 sources for this page
- Romans 8:38-39, World English Bible. read the chapter
- Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2091. vatican.va
- Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2005. vatican.va
- Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2092. vatican.va
- Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 1821. vatican.va
- 1 John 5:13, World English Bible. read the chapter
- John 10:28, World English Bible. read the chapter
- Philippians 2:12, World English Bible. read the chapter
- 1 Corinthians 10:12, World English Bible. read the chapter
- 2 Timothy 4:8, World English Bible. read the chapter
- 1 Corinthians 9:27, World English Bible. read the chapter
- Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2016. vatican.va
Translations of the Fathers and councils are public-domain 19th-century editions. Catechism links open vatican.va. Scripture: World English Bible, Catholic edition, modern verse numbers (Douay-Rheims numbers in brackets where they differ). Stone & Incense restates Church teaching and history in plain words; our wording is not an official Church text. Report an errorCorrections.
